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maximum budget deficit european countries can have a three percent flies in the face of automatic stabilizing mechanisms that all of these countries have where if they go into recession then automatically they have things like on employment insurance and all the people who were paying taxes into the government are now taking tax money out of the government and so of course you're going to have budget deficits go up was this just like a crazy idea in the first place yes i think so i think that the whole notion of an automatic fix level denies the inevitable flexibility the inevitability of new developments that no one who wrote these rules ever for saw and that it. puts a straight jacket on policy makers that never makes much sense that forces them to violate these rules that violation is interpreted in strange ways by the different players in an economy it's an irrational way to manage a capitalism that is always unstable and unpredictable so i would like to mention something about the cyprus event i think it's enormously important much more that's been understood first of all the the governm
maximum budget deficit european countries can have a three percent flies in the face of automatic stabilizing mechanisms that all of these countries have where if they go into recession then automatically they have things like on employment insurance and all the people who were paying taxes into the government are now taking tax money out of the government and so of course you're going to have budget deficits go up was this just like a crazy idea in the first place yes i think so i think that...
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are we getting our deficits and debts down? if you had to confirm yesterday, growth and the deficits have stalled. we are on a long, hard road to nowhere here in britain. >> so is everybody in the world, on a long, hard road particularly in developed countries. we saw pmi in eurozone suggesting six quarter hers of negative consecutive growth. and it's the trade rather than government spending or consumption, it's lack of trade overseas that's dragged the economy down. >> well, the forecast yesterday made clear that the fiscal tightening here in britain had reduced growth markedly. clearly, the situation is tough for us, as well.. why is it of the g-20 largest economies, only italy and japan have done worse than britain in the last two years? we weren't in the eurozone. the chancellor had the destiny of our country in his hands and he said this plan would work and it hasn't. the international monetary fund have been saying for the last year and a half the chancellor slowed the deficit pace of reduction, a temporary tax cut, brin
are we getting our deficits and debts down? if you had to confirm yesterday, growth and the deficits have stalled. we are on a long, hard road to nowhere here in britain. >> so is everybody in the world, on a long, hard road particularly in developed countries. we saw pmi in eurozone suggesting six quarter hers of negative consecutive growth. and it's the trade rather than government spending or consumption, it's lack of trade overseas that's dragged the economy down. >> well, the...
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if the sequester stays in you've got over 3 1/2 trillion dollars of deficit reduction already so we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. in fact for the next ten years it's in sustainable place. >> we do not have an immediate debt crisis, but we all know we have one looming. >> greta: turns out a majority of americans disagree with the president and the speaker of the house. a new poll showing, a fox poll, that 68% of americans describe the national debt as an immediate problem. only 27% say the debt can be handled in the future. mayor, what do you think? the speaker and the president don't think it's an immediate problem? >> i think the american people are far better economists than the people in washington. the reality we do have a serious debt problem. it's been accumulating now for four or five years. under obama it's been accumulating at massive amounts and there's no serious plan about cutting it. the numbers he was talking about, the cuts, many of which really aren't cuts at all, actually, he hasn't cut anything. he's reduced to some extent the rate of increase, but he
if the sequester stays in you've got over 3 1/2 trillion dollars of deficit reduction already so we don't have an immediate crisis in terms of debt. in fact for the next ten years it's in sustainable place. >> we do not have an immediate debt crisis, but we all know we have one looming. >> greta: turns out a majority of americans disagree with the president and the speaker of the house. a new poll showing, a fox poll, that 68% of americans describe the national debt as an immediate...
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to balance the budget because the president and treasury secretary were worried about the long term deficit? does that sound familiar? at the exact same time, the fed tightened rates, doing what all the bears say bernanke should do, betting that inflation could rage and rage easily if the fed stayed easy, which is what his critics are saying he should do right now. but when we went down this road in 1937 it sent the economy into an amazing tail spin. causing a recession within a depression. it was an economic calamity that was totally avoidable if the people in power made different, smarter choices. especially the federal reserve. ben bernanke does not want history to repeat itself. he's not going down the path of what the fed did in 1937. he's not stupid. even though that's exactly the path unfortunately that the president and congress are taking. bernanke recognizes that obama and congress have repeated the errors of 1937 down to a tee. he can't let the fed's part in the drama be repeated. otherwise he'd go down as the fed chief who never got the economy going and put it back in a recessi
to balance the budget because the president and treasury secretary were worried about the long term deficit? does that sound familiar? at the exact same time, the fed tightened rates, doing what all the bears say bernanke should do, betting that inflation could rage and rage easily if the fed stayed easy, which is what his critics are saying he should do right now. but when we went down this road in 1937 it sent the economy into an amazing tail spin. causing a recession within a depression. it...
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we have a jobs deficit. we have a budget deficit. and these are the byproducts of a leadership deficit. we still have no budget from the president, in violation of the law. he gets his ncaa bracket in on time but still no budget. this is the fourth time in five years. he set a new record this year, two months with no plan, while we had trillion-dollar deficits and a debt crisis on the horizon. his party leaders, unfortunately, failing offering a serious account of our challenge. no serious plan to grow our economy or create jobs. no plan to ever balance the budget. take more. trillions of dollars more to spend more in washington. that's what got us in this mess in the first place. so what can be done? the good news is that we now have a vehicle for regular order. the democrats derailed the budget process each of the last few years and stopped governing when they stopped budgeting. at least we now have a budget process that's moving. we brought them back in the game this spring. that's a good thing. so what's going to happen in the we
we have a jobs deficit. we have a budget deficit. and these are the byproducts of a leadership deficit. we still have no budget from the president, in violation of the law. he gets his ncaa bracket in on time but still no budget. this is the fourth time in five years. he set a new record this year, two months with no plan, while we had trillion-dollar deficits and a debt crisis on the horizon. his party leaders, unfortunately, failing offering a serious account of our challenge. no serious plan...
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and david leonhardt, author of "here's the deal: how washington can solve the deficit and spur growth." i am pleased to have them both on the program. what's the headline coming out of bernanke's press conference? >> i think steady as it goes is the main headline. the fed is going to continue to buy these bonds it has been buying at about the same pace. it's going to continue doing it until sees unemployment fall to about 6.5%. i don't think there are any changed today. i think the most interesting part of the news conference was when bernanke wanted to stay on in the job. although he refused to answer the question he said he and president obama had spokeeb about it "a bit." i think it's interesting to think about the idea he and obama have talked about whether he wants a third term and how inclined obama is to give it to him. >> rose: i would think if obama is talking to him about it it suggests will obama would like for him to continue. >> i think that's a good assumption. i think obama clearly likes bernanke and thinks on the whole bernanke has done a good job. he has made the same
and david leonhardt, author of "here's the deal: how washington can solve the deficit and spur growth." i am pleased to have them both on the program. what's the headline coming out of bernanke's press conference? >> i think steady as it goes is the main headline. the fed is going to continue to buy these bonds it has been buying at about the same pace. it's going to continue doing it until sees unemployment fall to about 6.5%. i don't think there are any changed today. i think...
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there's no pressure, really, to balance the budget, no pressure to wind down these immense deficits, because they can be financed at about nothing. so to companies that might properly be considered bankruptcy candidates can sustain themselves and their precarious lives through borrowing at such rates. >> and that's what we continue seeing. >> this so-called recovery has been painfully and in a very un-american way drawn out, undynamic, and to people who are looking for a job, downright cool. and the fed insists that for reasons of economics as well as humanity, it will continue to do what has not worked. >> and i want to get your take on cyprus and europe, but let me put that aside for a moment. because, you know, chairman ben bernanke commented on this yesterday. someone said to him, what about the downside risk of all of this easy money. and he said, look, there are no issues of inflation. we don't have any issues in terms of, you know, this free money so far. and in fact, it's been helpful to the economy. so, what is the downside risk? how does this end? >> well, this is the great
there's no pressure, really, to balance the budget, no pressure to wind down these immense deficits, because they can be financed at about nothing. so to companies that might properly be considered bankruptcy candidates can sustain themselves and their precarious lives through borrowing at such rates. >> and that's what we continue seeing. >> this so-called recovery has been painfully and in a very un-american way drawn out, undynamic, and to people who are looking for a job,...
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the boon right now, at a 56 basis point deficit to the treasuries. that's a wide spread. and the last two-day chart of the euro versus the dollar. should it break through 1.28.80, it could challenge the current four-month lows versus the greenback. sue, back to you. >> rick, thank you very much. >>> some new clues about the state of the job market today. the number of americans filing unemployment benefits rising slightly last week to 336,000. a tad below estimates. we've seen a number of job cuts announced recently. so is the labor market running out of steam? listen to what "mad money's" jim cramer said earlier today. >> tens of thousands of people are going to be laid off within the next month. >> whatever little. >> and that's going to show up in the numbers, in that 330,000 employment, that may be the last good one. bernanke is not smoking dope, pot, whatever they call it now. >> well, is he right? joining us now is "the wall street journal's" chief economics correspondent john hillsenrath. good to see you. >> good to be here. i agree with one thing that jim said ear
the boon right now, at a 56 basis point deficit to the treasuries. that's a wide spread. and the last two-day chart of the euro versus the dollar. should it break through 1.28.80, it could challenge the current four-month lows versus the greenback. sue, back to you. >> rick, thank you very much. >>> some new clues about the state of the job market today. the number of americans filing unemployment benefits rising slightly last week to 336,000. a tad below estimates. we've seen a...
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the idea that the obama care would be deficit-neutral and control costs i think has turned out to be a charade. if you look at the longer term projections it looks especially more unlikely today than it did when they were engaged in the budget that allowed it to pass. what i think is interesting on the political side is how republicans are treating the issue right now. there is a debate inside the republican party whether it's wise to continue talking about obamacare. on one hand you have a group that says in effect this is over, this is done, we should tweak it, try to improve it, do what we can. let's not focus op it because it's in the past and discussion of aweer thety. on the other hand people think talk about it all the time because implementation is proving difficult and it will be more difficult as we go along to the republicans' benefit. >> bret: the second group of republicans believe the thing could crater. it could just not work. >> correct. that is a possibility. i think that the comment we just heard, there are thousands of pages of regulation that people haven't read i
the idea that the obama care would be deficit-neutral and control costs i think has turned out to be a charade. if you look at the longer term projections it looks especially more unlikely today than it did when they were engaged in the budget that allowed it to pass. what i think is interesting on the political side is how republicans are treating the issue right now. there is a debate inside the republican party whether it's wise to continue talking about obamacare. on one hand you have a...
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54% say the government needs to cut spending to reduce the deficit while 38% said, spending should be increased to boost job creation. tracy: hmmm. how about that? all right, joining us with more on this bill passed today that peter barnes was just referencing too and americans feeling on the economy, congressman marsha blackburn. thanks for being with us today. start with the continuing resolution. here we go again, kicking the can down the road, buying some time. we'll be back to square one in a couple months. then what? >> i'll tell you at least what we have is a continuing resolution that recognizes the reductions that were made, the spending reductions that were made through sequestration. so that is, that's a good, a good solid step. with the budget, we have passed ours in the house. it will be the first time in several years for the senate to actually pass a budget. i guess they want their paychecks next month. and then, you know, tracy, let's see what comes forward as we try to working is out. they continue to say balanced approach but i'll tell you, i think the american peopl
54% say the government needs to cut spending to reduce the deficit while 38% said, spending should be increased to boost job creation. tracy: hmmm. how about that? all right, joining us with more on this bill passed today that peter barnes was just referencing too and americans feeling on the economy, congressman marsha blackburn. thanks for being with us today. start with the continuing resolution. here we go again, kicking the can down the road, buying some time. we'll be back to square one...
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they've got a $1 billion budget deficit. so he has to do something. but the problem is, what does he do? at the beginning of the school year, some people are saying they got off easy with just 50 schools, carol. at the beginning of the school year, they said they were going to close potentially 80 to 120 schools. so it's causing issues. there's no money. also, racial issues in the city, because black alderman are saying, we got you elected and now you are closing most of these schools in black neighborhoods on the south and west sides of chicago. and you didn't listen to us. there was no consensus about which areas and which schools should be closed. so it's causing some big issues, beyond money. >> i would suspect that parents are concerned about their children's safety, too. because these children now have to be transported farther to school. they can't go in their own neighborhoods. >> and besides the issue that we have with guns, we can talk about. but, yes, safety, just outside of that issue, where are the resources going to go? which schools? in
they've got a $1 billion budget deficit. so he has to do something. but the problem is, what does he do? at the beginning of the school year, some people are saying they got off easy with just 50 schools, carol. at the beginning of the school year, they said they were going to close potentially 80 to 120 schools. so it's causing issues. there's no money. also, racial issues in the city, because black alderman are saying, we got you elected and now you are closing most of these schools in black...
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because, you know, there's kind of a trust deficit here now. if i was living in spain or italy, i might be thinking about putting my money someplace aside from a shaky bank right now. >> reporter: so the trust deficit stems from the original proposal was that they should tax not just uninsured deposits, but also insured deposits. imagine if you were living in the united states and even though we have fdic insurance up to $250,000, you were told that actually you're not going to get all $250,000 of your dollars, they were going to take a piece of that. that was the earlier proposal from earlier this week and that's what they thought would worry the italians and the span yards that they didn't even have insurance protection like they thought they did. that proposal has since been voted down, gone away. the banking situation here is unique compared to italy and spain. it's just so much bigger, it's not really comparable. >> thank you so much, michelle, we greatly appreciate it. and thank you, rona, we appreciate it as well. i think we learned some
because, you know, there's kind of a trust deficit here now. if i was living in spain or italy, i might be thinking about putting my money someplace aside from a shaky bank right now. >> reporter: so the trust deficit stems from the original proposal was that they should tax not just uninsured deposits, but also insured deposits. imagine if you were living in the united states and even though we have fdic insurance up to $250,000, you were told that actually you're not going to get all...
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because then all your financing are the government deficits. >> adam, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> becky, you highlight a really good point. what is very clear from this government and also from the people on the ground that i've spoken with is they absolutely don't want to see a reduction in the sides of the banking system here because they know that is what 50% of the economy and a ton of the jobs, as well. they realize it's going to be a change of livelihood. changes that will happen in this country no matter what are going to be startling to the people here. >> i saw all the headlines coming from russia and the president here making strong comments. is that going to fall on deaf ears in europe? is that not a big deal as far as they're concerned? >> that would be my interpretation, absolutely. would you agree with that, adam? whatever russia says is going to fall on deaf ears when it comes to the troika? >> it doesn't fall on deaf ears. but the europeans have made a categoric statements. cypress has to come up with 5.8 billion euros. it can't be through new loans, it can't b
because then all your financing are the government deficits. >> adam, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> becky, you highlight a really good point. what is very clear from this government and also from the people on the ground that i've spoken with is they absolutely don't want to see a reduction in the sides of the banking system here because they know that is what 50% of the economy and a ton of the jobs, as well. they realize it's going to be a change of livelihood....
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is reducing the federal deficit a worthy goal in and of itself? and 85% say yes. 11% say no. it's not just john boehner who said it's not an immediate problem. paul ryan, the face of fiscal responsibility himself this past weekend on one of the sunday shows said not an immediate problem. so americans have gotten the message that it is a problem and that we should be tackling it right now, even though our lawmakers feel it can be down the road a year, five years, whatever we tackle it. >> brian: our next guest has nothing to at to this subject. so i'll move on. >> steve: he does. he's going to -- >> brian: he's coming out of his chair. solar companies were supposed to boost our economy. now evidence they might be tanking our economy. you remember solyndra that cost american taxpayers more than $500 million. turns out it may have a successor. >> steve: months after opening, the oregon based solar panel company, solo power, is facing layoffs, putting 250 million of our taxpayer dollars in jeopardy. apparently stuart varney, we learned nothing from solyndra. >> no, we have learne
is reducing the federal deficit a worthy goal in and of itself? and 85% say yes. 11% say no. it's not just john boehner who said it's not an immediate problem. paul ryan, the face of fiscal responsibility himself this past weekend on one of the sunday shows said not an immediate problem. so americans have gotten the message that it is a problem and that we should be tackling it right now, even though our lawmakers feel it can be down the road a year, five years, whatever we tackle it. >>...